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    Post by honey-ass Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:14 am

    But it's the Wii no true gamer would even think about getting that console. You must be a casual gamer? Or unless you are one of those people who will but just about everything out there...? o.O
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    Post by Elge Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:20 am

    honey-ass wrote:But it's the Wii no true gamer would even think about getting that console. You must be a casual gamer?

    Backwards logic is backwards logic. Casual games do not a casual system make. There ARE hardcore games on the console; choosing to ignore them shows that you really can't see outside the box.

    Calling me a casual gamer is like calling Antarctica "not that cold." It's absurd. The one thing that really bothers me is when people make assumptions based on false judgments.

    "Nintendo made the Wii. The Wii has a lot of third-and-first-party casual games. Anyone who owns the Wii must be a casual gamer."

    If I applied that logic to other systems, it'd look something like this:
    "Microsoft made the Xbox360. The Xbox360 has been known to have a lot of hardware issues. Anyone who owns the Xbox360 enjoys throwing their money down the toilet."
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    Post by honey-ass Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:04 am

    You read me all wrong I ASKED if you were a casual gamer. I never called you one.
    honey-ass wrote:But it's the Wii no true gamer would even think about getting that console. You must be a casual gamer? Or unless you are one of those people who will but just about everything out there...? o.O

    See the question mark I placed there? I meant no harm and I am sorry if I offened you. Lub I just find the Wii funny when it all comes down to it. I remember when someone waved the controller around it was a sign of foolishness like waving it around would really help. But now the Wii has changed that and it's very very sad. What's next a porn anime game (like the silly japanese have) where you use the controller to have a jerk off action. Lol can you imagine that? lol Yay! Chrono! like that animation except 5x as fast Wink.
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    Post by Elge Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:24 pm

    honey-ass wrote:See the question mark I placed there? I meant no harm and I am sorry if I offened you. Lub I just find the Wii funny when it all comes down to it. I remember when someone waved the controller around it was a sign of foolishness like waving it around would really help. But now the Wii has changed that and it's very very sad. What's next a porn anime game (like the silly japanese have) where you use the controller to have a jerk off action. Lol can you imagine that? lol Yay! Chrono! like that animation except 5x as fast Wink.

    Sorry if I misinterpreted you, then. But it's easy to see how I could get confused; even as a question, that's still an assumption about someone based on marketing and false images.

    Nintendo has ALWAYS (repeat, always) been a casual developer. Sure, the SNES featured some of the most classic, hardcore RPGs someone could ask for, but most of them were made by third-party developers (primarily the then-Squaresoft). I just get annoyed now when people start criticizing Nintendo for being something they were from the start.

    It's a bandwagon thing. Everyone else is doing it, so it must be the cool thing to do. Despite that, though; despite the taboo that Nintendo and the Wii have, it has some amazing games, (those of which I have listed), and a handful of them being infintiely times more fun than some games I've played on my 360 or my PS3. (No More Heroes is one of my absolute favorite games, as you can see in another thread I posted).
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:35 pm

    Fatal Frame 4 is coming out for the Wii?!
    OuO
    Of all the systems though? The Wii.
    It was on the PS2 and the original Xbox. Why the Wii now?
    I wonder if it will make it even MORE scary.
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    Post by honey-ass Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:07 pm

    Fatal frame? Is that the one I think it is? I forget about that game... must google!
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    Post by Elge Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:40 pm

    honey-ass wrote:Fatal frame? Is that the one I think it is? I forget about that game... must google!

    Where you use a camera to capture photos of ghosts in order to "kill" them, or in other words get rid of them.
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    Post by honey-ass Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:07 pm

    It is the one that I thought. okay thanks.
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    Post by Lexicon Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:41 pm

    honey-ass wrote:
    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Any game for the PS1. Heh.
    But my favorite games are on the PS1. Star Ocean 2. And FFVIII. =]

    Don't forget Legend of Dragoon! Anyways why aren't there any older systems on the list? Like super nintendo and atari? My husband has most older systems and PS2, PS3, PSP, XBOX, 360. Show some love!

    Sorry, but you had to have 15 entries on the list. I decided to put the latest, because they're... common.
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    Post by honey-ass Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:10 am

    That's okay. All is good Lub
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    Post by Elge Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:18 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Fatal Frame 4 is coming out for the Wii?!
    OuO
    Of all the systems though? The Wii.
    It was on the PS2 and the original Xbox. Why the Wii now?
    I wonder if it will make it even MORE scary.

    That's the kind of thinking and judgment I'm talking about. >_>

    Why does everyone think "WHY the Wii?" when a game appears on the platform. It's no wonder the system doesn't have that many major titles, because people have no faith in it. They would just prefer to stick to their comfort of generic controls and game mechanics.

    Next to the PC, the Wii is the BEST potential platform for shooter games. The level of control you have with the Wii Remote is infinitely times better than what a joystick can offer. If anyone's played Metroid Prime 3, like I have, then you can see that. But of course if you HAVEN'T played it, then it's very easy to just assume "it sucks."

    Resident Evil 4 was considered the best game of the year when it came out in 2005. And that's not easy to argue; there were a few other games that were just as awesome, but that one was easily an amazing title. When the game was ported over to the Wii, quite literally EVERY SINGLE CRITIC AND REVIEWER said the Wii version was the superior game. Why? The controls.

    Fatal Frame utilizes the first person view when taking pictures. My case rests.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:49 pm

    I wasn't saying "Why the WII" like it was a bad thing. I was just wondering why they wouldn't put it on the 360 or PS since they had the rights already. They separated the series onto a bunch of consoles. I was wondering why they did THAT.
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    Post by Elge Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:54 pm

    [quote=\"XXXBurningStarIV\"]I wasn't saying "Why the WII" like it was a bad thing. I was just wondering why they wouldn't put it on the 360 or PS since they had the rights already. They separated the series onto a bunch of consoles. I was wondering why they did THAT.[/quote]

    Actually, Tecmo has never given the rights of Fatal Frame over. The series has been a third-party game forever (the first even appeared as a multi-platform release for Xbox and PS2, so it was never an exclusive title). Tecmo also recently merged with Koei, and Fatal Frame 4 was co-developed with Grasshopper Manufacturers (which made "No More Heroes").

    So the Wii release is not as much of a shock as you thought it was.


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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:55 pm

    Ah. Hum. Oh well. But I wasn't putting the Wii down.
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    Post by Elge Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:57 pm

    This is exactly what developers need to do, though. If no one experiments with the Wii, then people WILL always think of it as the "casual console."

    But with that list of games I put up earlier, there's proof the Wii has every intention of appealing to hardcore gamers, too. That's why I find it such a shame people can easily label the Wii as "casual."
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:00 pm

    Oh yeah. I agree completely. I wish they would put out better titles. The Wii could be the top system out there. But almost all of their games only appeal to children. And the ones that ARE good, they never advertise. I never even knew ToS was coming out until I seen the strategy guide a week before its release.
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    Post by Elge Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:02 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Oh yeah. I agree completely. I wish they would put out better titles. The Wii could be the top system out there. But almost all of their games only appeal to children. And the ones that ARE good, they never advertise. I never even knew ToS was coming out until I seen the strategy guide a week before its release.

    Funnily enough, the Wii IS the top console in terms of sales. So it's obvious Nintendo knows exactly what they're doing. People can criticize them and their system(s) all they want, but Miyamoto's just swimming in his ocean of cash right now.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:13 pm

    I bet they have great games in Japan for it that wont be coming here. =/
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    Post by Elge Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:15 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:I bet they have great games in Japan for it that wont be coming here. =/

    You have no idea. Not only just for the Wii, but much earlier games (PSX/2). The Shin Megami Tensei franchise (of which Persona 3 is part of) has about half of their games as Japan-only.

    ;-; I'm missing out on some amazing RPGs.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:18 pm

    Yeah. I hate that no really good RPGs have been coming out lately. Anything that gets credit are the FPSs.
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    Post by Elge Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:59 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Yeah. I hate that no really good RPGs have been coming out lately. Anything that gets credit are the FPSs.

    This news makes me happy for the Wii, though:

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6204076.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=morenews&tag=morenews;title;14

    In short: "After emphasizing that EA must make a bigger push to capitalize on the Wii's success, EA CEO John Riccitiello said that a number of its core games will make the transition to Nintendo's best-selling platform, among them last year's survival horror hit Dead Space."

    Dead Space. On the Wii. With the perfect control scheme (I already mentioned how awesome Resident Evil 4 was with the Wii's controls - this is virtually the same). I've already played and beaten the game on the PC. And I'm still going to get it for the Wii.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:44 pm

    =O I want it for Wii. Lol. That would be so cool. =D
    I got a FPS RPG game for the Wii called Baroque. But I still haven't played it. Do you know if it's any good?
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    Post by Elge Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:22 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:=O I want it for Wii. Lol. That would be so cool. =D
    I got a FPS RPG game for the Wii called Baroque. But I still haven't played it. Do you know if it's any good?

    I heard you need a very specific taste to like it. It's a total and complete dungeon crawler. And it's pretty brutal in terms of difficulty, I've ready.
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    Post by Dead_Inside Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:31 pm

    I own the following. The number of how many are owned are in paranthesis.

    PS2, PS1, Gamcube, WII, DS(2), PSP(2), Xbox, N64, Sega Genesis, Nentindo.
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    Post by Lexicon Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:02 pm

    I, in all due respect for Nintendo, am not that fussed about the Wii. Or the XBOX.

    They just... don't appeal.

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