Elge wrote:I'll simply list my comments numerically because quoting in this forum is awkward:
1: Note the "I think" when I insult Rob Zombie. Opinion. O.P.I.N.I.O.N. How is that in any way an insult to YOU? Are you Rob Zombie?
2. Gore Porn is a genre of film. How is calling them gore porn movies insulting them?
3. When we meet again 10 years down the road, I'll ask you how Rob Zombie's movie career is going; and in that same respect, how well-received his movies are at that point. Then I'll ask you how classics like Nightmare on Elm Street and Eraserhead are doing.
4. They're not train wrecks because you like them. They're train wrecks based on the average, general consensus of the movies. They are universally considered average-to-sub-par movies. Of course there are going to be people who like them (like yourself), but there is an overwhelming majority who agrees that they are trash. Majority rules.
5. It's an insult to you as a viewer if you can't acknowledge the fact that they are shameless gore porn movies. Not ALL gore porn is shameless. They don't all exploit their medium for the purposes of drawing in viewers. Rob Zombie's movies do. Flash and glitter does not a good movie make.
6. I'm truly shocked that you really haven't been assaulted. I'm not saying I WANT someone to walk up to you and sock you in the face, I'm just curious as to how it hasn't happened yet.
7. Flame = blatant insult using profane language or otherwise resorting to moot points to annoy someone. Calling someone "FAIL" is a flame. Comparing two arguments and saying that one of them uses coherency, facts, and proper debating tactics, and the other is just one rambling after another is not a flame. It's observation.
8. This is a funny point. "If it's so insulting to people, they wouldn't watch it." Really? I'm willing to bet there's a group of people out there that enjoy stupid things. There was even a show about some of them, called "Jackass." People enjoy stupidity. People are attracted to what's familiar. Gore rarely has a purpose in the movie, and when it does have a purpose, it better be executed flawlessly and not just thrown everywhere for attention. Rob Zombie does this.
9. If you find blood and dismemberment scary, then you have a weak stomach. That's not scary, that's disturbing. There's a clear cut difference between them. Dr. Gordon sawing off his leg in Saw is not scary, it's disturbing. It's unsettling. Vicariously feeling a sense of claustrophobia and paranoia for Heather and Mike in The Blair Witch Project is real fear.
10. I'm comparing the two movies, not flaming them. Again, learn what "flame" means. I'm expressing my opinion, and that is that both movies are virtually carbon copies of each other. Hell, that's what the Saw franchise is after the first one, as well as Nightmare on Elm Street, as well as Friday the 13th, as well as Halloween. See where I'm going? Horror movies are a tricky genre to get right.
11. If you get offended by my opinion of a movie, you're just emotionally unstable. That or you're just talking out of your ass trying to make a point. (I'm expecting a quote of this, saying it's another flame. Amirite?)
12. Crazy and rabid, yes. Do you have rabies? I wouldn't think so, you'd be dead by now. But crazy and rabid, absolutely. You got so defensive when I countered your opinions about the movies. I'd consider that pretty rabid.
13. I didn't say your opinion was wrong. That's a paradox. Opinions can't be wrong, that's why they're opinions. I said learn to state your opinion properly. Otherwise people get confused and think you're stating your opinion as fact. And when that happens, you can bet I'll be there to troll my ass off.
14. No, that was at your own argument. On an early page you said this, "And i love the first saw. It has a story." Then later you said this: "Look at saw. Its a gore movie with no story." The swiss cheese comment was in regards to the holes in your argument, not in any way related to Saw. LRN2INTERPRET.
15. This is in regards to saying I think I'm a God. My name is Mike, and Michael in Hebrew means "He who is like God." So....I'm glad you could understand that.
Next?
1. Thats flame.
2. No it isnt, you just want to insult the film which gets to me. Which insults me along with rob zombie's movie.
3. Rob zombie is currently making 3 new movies and a album. THERE YOU GO, HE IS HAVING A AMAZING MOVIE CAREER. HAHAHAHAHA IN YOUR FACE.
4. No there based on the reviews critics gave them. If you base it on reviews people gave it, there better than what critics say. I HATE WHAT CRITICS SAY ABOUT MOVIES 99.9 PERCENT OF THE TIME AND SO DO MOST PEOPLE.
5.NO it isnt a insult. IT MAKES MOST PEOPLE SMILE AND LAUGH OR JUST LIKE THE DISTURBED FEEL OF IT. THERES TWO COMPLETE MOVIES IN THE MOVIE SECTION "GORE" CALLED TOKYO GORE POLICE AND MACHINE GUN GIRL WHICH IF YOU READ COMMENTS MADE BY P[EOPLE WHO WATCHED IT WHO LOVE GORE LOVE THE MOVIE. I LOVED THE MOVIES AND SO DO MOST PEOPLE. PURE MESSED UP] GORE IS AWESOME MAKES US SMILE AND LAUGH, IT DOESNT INSULT ANYONE EXCEPT YOU AND YOUR GORFOBIA FRIENDS.
6.No you want someone to walk up to me and punch me in your face.
7. That was.... What i read there was just.... Just terrible, terrible fail in every way shape and form possible.
8.Gore has a purpose. TO MAKE PEOPLE SMILE AND LAUGH. EVERYONE HAS A SICK PART IN THERE MIND THAT WANTS OT SEE IT. WITHOUT GORE PEOPLE WOULD ALSO TAKE ANGER AND VIOLENCE WITHIN THEM AND RELEASE THEM IN UNHEALTHY WAYS. SUCH AS KILLING, INSTEAD OF JUST PLAYING A VIOLENT VIDEO GAME OR WATCHING A VIOLENT MOVIE.
9.Yes i like disturbing. So do most people. Look at the saw movies. There just disturbing torture and there is a #6 coming. By all means most people would think you have horrible tast in movies now.
10.No your flaming the movies, which i take as a insult, to both me and rob zombie.
11. Since you said it, now its flame. Thats your own fault >>. No im not emotionally unstable. I hate when people go "I HATE THIS I HATE THAT BECAUSE IT DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH PLOT" EVEN THOUGH HALF THE WORLD THINKS PURE MESSED UP DISTURBING GORE WITHOUT PLOT IS EPIC
12.No im not crazy and rabid.I looked in a dictionary to at the meaning of rabid. "Of or affected by rabies." Point proven.
13.My opinion is fact. Im the king of the internet, and the god of the new world order. Why not just bow down to me now while you have the chance?[/sarcasm]
14.No i didnt say that you idiot. I always thought saw had a story.
15.You think your god. You think your him yourself. You just think your so awesome in every way shape and form. Once again another thing you wont admit.
Get over it.
Your opinion goes against nearly 50% of the world. Here are some reviews to saw 3 the gorriest one i saw, that i couldnt even eat while watching it. Here are reviews for that, then reviews for tokyo gore police, the pure nonstop gorefest that everyone loves.
Saw
First 3 reviews
Overall Rating: 3.5/5
Review numbers:
169 Reviews
5 star: (64)
4 star: (45)
3 star: (27)
2 star: (16)
1 star: (17)
Note: I bet your one of the 17 people who voted 1 star, compared to the people over 100 that voted for 4+
Add up 1-2-3 in the number of ratings and there you go, the number of people who love the movie is over, which should prove something itself. Here are the first 5 reviews that appear.
2/5
4/5
3/5
5/5
4/5
That should show you people like nonstop gore. If you dont believe here is the first 10 actually from tokyo gore police.
Overall Rating: 4/5
YAAH THE NONSTOP GOREFEST GETS 4/5
IN YOUR
FACE
IT PROVES PEOPLE LOVE GORE
HAHAHAHAHAHA
4/5
3/5
3/5
3/5
2/5
4/5
3/5
5/5
-Something interesting in this review "'ichi the killer'"
5/5
5/5
5/5
5/5
4/5
-Something interesting- Totally GORE-RIFIC!! Tokyo is Burning with the Wild Blend of "Pink" Violence and Blood-Splattering EFX!,
There you go. Its proof most people like complete gorefests. Continue to argue, ill just bring out more reviews by people. People love gore, get a clue.