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Elge- Dominations
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Warhammer Online is better than World of Warcraft.
That is all.
That is all.
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I haven't played Warhammer.
Remember I was addicted to WoW before even playing it. xD
But I got over it quick. xD
Remember I was addicted to WoW before even playing it. xD
But I got over it quick. xD
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I bet you it isnt.
I play WoW and City of heroes/villians and can gurantee it is better than that... That looked... Bad to me. Just another WoW clone like lord of the rings online. The Real Time Strategy game made from it looked awesome though
I play WoW and City of heroes/villians and can gurantee it is better than that... That looked... Bad to me. Just another WoW clone like lord of the rings online. The Real Time Strategy game made from it looked awesome though
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:I bet you it isnt.
I play WoW and City of heroes/villians and can gurantee it is better than that... That looked... Bad to me. Just another WoW clone like lord of the rings online. The Real Time Strategy game made from it looked awesome though
There's your problem. You assumed. I played WoW since launch, quit last year for WAR. Warhammer is infinitely better in quite nearly every aspect.
Anyone who says Warhammer is a Warcraft clone clearly doesn't know history. No offense, it's a common assumption. Blizzard comes out with their 900-pound gorilla and everyone drops to their knees. But Warhammer has the upper hand, sorry to say.
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:I bet you it isnt.
I play WoW and City of heroes/villians and can gurantee it is better than that... That looked... Bad to me. Just another WoW clone like lord of the rings online. The Real Time Strategy game made from it looked awesome though
There's your problem. You assumed. I played WoW since launch, quit last year for WAR. Warhammer is infinitely better in quite nearly every aspect.
Anyone who says Warhammer is a Warcraft clone clearly doesn't know history. No offense, it's a common assumption. Blizzard comes out with their 900-pound gorilla and everyone drops to their knees. But Warhammer has the upper hand, sorry to say.
I think warhammer just looks like crap. Ive seen previews ive looked at it. I wouldnt mind trying it but it looks so.... Clonish in every way shape and form. Even most reviews of people who said it posted things like " Well i honestly didn't get into the storyline. I couldn't make any connection between any of the characters. It wasn't that interesting"
It has bad reviews all over the internet for wow fans.
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:It has bad reviews all over the internet for wow fans.
Do I really need to comment and say why this is a completely silly way to judge the game? Of course WOW fans are going to say bad things about the game.
I'd truly like to ask the people how far into the game they've played to judge the "story." Firstly, few people play an MMO for the story. They play it for the online interactions. If you want quality, in-depth storytelling, go play a console RPG. Not an MMO. Or maybe read a book.
Connection between the characters? I assume this relates to NPC characters, in full because the only connections between player characters would come on role-playing servers. It's easy to get lost in the story if you ignore it. I have a hard time believing you objectively judged the game. Take off the WoW-goggles.
Again, calling it a clone is a completely and utterly misinformed way to perceive the game. Let's go to the video, shall we? (I'm willing to bet you've never seen the instant comparisons between the two games, but rather judged WAR from afar).
In closing; take WoW off of the pedestal for a good minute when you're judging the competition. It'll help clear up the fog clouding your mind.
Don't argue this with me, you will lose.
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:It has bad reviews all over the internet for wow fans.
Do I really need to comment and say why this is a completely silly way to judge the game? Of course WOW fans are going to say bad things about the game.
I'd truly like to ask the people how far into the game they've played to judge the "story." Firstly, few people play an MMO for the story. They play it for the online interactions. If you want quality, in-depth storytelling, go play a console RPG. Not an MMO. Or maybe read a book.
Connection between the characters? I assume this relates to NPC characters, in full because the only connections between player characters would come on role-playing servers. It's easy to get lost in the story if you ignore it. I have a hard time believing you objectively judged the game. Take off the WoW-goggles.
Again, calling it a clone is a completely and utterly misinformed way to perceive the game. Let's go to the video, shall we? (I'm willing to bet you've never seen the instant comparisons between the two games, but rather judged WAR from afar).
In closing; take WoW off of the pedestal for a good minute when you're judging the competition. It'll help clear up the fog clouding your mind.
Don't argue this with me, you will lose.
That game looks horrible.
And im a WoW fan so i asked WoW fans. Im never EVER playing it EVER. NEVER in hostory will i EVER pick this game up to even try the demo. It looks horrible while there are so many better. That game is only good for PvP i heard so thats gay. Thats one of the things that makes the game horrible. I don't like PVP
I like PvM. Wow, Starcraft, Diablo, City of heroes, City of villians, Ever quest, Final Fantasy 11.
All of these games are better than that. 4 of which are mmorpgs.
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:That game looks horrible.
If it looks horrible, then by your own words so does WoW. It's a clone, amirite?
There's a reason why WoW is the top MMO of all time. Not because it's good, but because it's accessible. It has broad appeal. Your average WoW-player barely makes it passed level 20 before they stop playing or reroll another character. If you were to cut WoW's population down to only the dedicated players, those who make it to the end-game and actively participate in the raids, you'd have a fraction of what the total population is.
Whereas in Warhammer, quite literally the majority of players have all reached the end game. Blizzard's mindset is "quantity over quality." More is better. If you want to rob half of the world of their freedom and their wallets, then yes. That's perfect.
If you want to make a good game, you've got another thing coming. But then there's no convincing an openly-admitted WoW fanboy. Enjoy mediocrity and repetition.
Ignorance is bliss.
P.S.: For my own personal enjoyment, how far into WoW have YOU gotten? Or are you one of those casual players who will defend the game tooth-and-nail simply because...everyone else is doing it?
Zeon-Darksol wrote:I like PvM. Wow, Starcraft, Diablo, City of heroes, City of villians, Ever quest, Final Fantasy 11.
All of these games are better than that. 4 of which are mmorpgs.
You can't compare two vastly different genres and say one game is better than the other because they're DIFFERENT TYPES OF GAMES. Starcraft is an RTS. WAR is an MMO. Having preference over one is acceptable; saying apples are better than oranges means you're an asinine biased fanboy.
And by the way, the correct abbreviation is PvE. Player vs. Environment.
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I'll just leave this here for further superiority. Enjoy WoW.
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:That game looks horrible.
If it looks horrible, then by your own words so does WoW. It's a clone, amirite?
There's a reason why WoW is the top MMO of all time. Not because it's good, but because it's accessible. It has broad appeal. Your average WoW-player barely makes it passed level 20 before they stop playing or reroll another character. If you were to cut WoW's population down to only the dedicated players, those who make it to the end-game and actively participate in the raids, you'd have a fraction of what the total population is.
Whereas in Warhammer, quite literally the majority of players have all reached the end game. Blizzard's mindset is "quantity over quality." More is better. If you want to rob half of the world of their freedom and their wallets, then yes. That's perfect.
If you want to make a good game, you've got another thing coming. But then there's no convincing an openly-admitted WoW fanboy. Enjoy mediocrity and repetition.
Ignorance is bliss.
P.S.: For my own personal enjoyment, how far into WoW have YOU gotten? Or are you one of those casual players who will defend the game tooth-and-nail simply because...everyone else is doing it?Zeon-Darksol wrote:I like PvM. Wow, Starcraft, Diablo, City of heroes, City of villians, Ever quest, Final Fantasy 11.
All of these games are better than that. 4 of which are mmorpgs.
You can't compare two vastly different genres and say one game is better than the other because they're DIFFERENT TYPES OF GAMES. Starcraft is an RTS. WAR is an MMO. Having preference over one is acceptable; saying apples are better than oranges means you're an asinine biased fanboy.
And by the way, the correct abbreviation is PvE. Player vs. Environment.
No PvE is player vs enemy
Any retard could figure that out without using any sence of logic.ALSO MMO WOW BEATS IT
IM A BIG DEDICATED WOW AND CITY OF HERO FAN TO
Lets see... No by it being a WoW clone is horrible because its a rip off of a game thats been out for what 5-6 years earlier than this. MMO IS warhammer. Are you stupid? Im not kidding. WoW and warhammer is a Mmo.
Final Fantasy 11 is a MMO
City of Heroes/Villians MMO
WoW is a MMo
Here are more MMO's which are better and looked better
All 4 guild wars = MMO
Hellgate London = MMO
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I would say, they're equally as good, and I enjoy playing both of them. Why must everything be in comparison to something else? They're both damn-fucking-good games. Now stfu and go kill some baddies
I quit WoW about 6 months ago and I aint ready to put in the amount of time needed for another MMO. If I was though, I would definitely play Warhammer, being that it is the superior game. WoW has quite simply run it's course, and now they're focusing more so on what true Blizzard fans have been wanting since WoW came out. Time for a new leader to run the MMO pack, and if WoW fans are too stubborn to realize that and accept it for what it is, then that's their loss That's not to say WoW is no more. As long as Blizzard decide to upkeep the servers, it'll still be playable and fun. There's no need to forget about a game completely just because another one has been released. You just keep playing your WoW, and the people ready to move with what's hot and new will play some Warhammer. Then we're all happy
I quit WoW about 6 months ago and I aint ready to put in the amount of time needed for another MMO. If I was though, I would definitely play Warhammer, being that it is the superior game. WoW has quite simply run it's course, and now they're focusing more so on what true Blizzard fans have been wanting since WoW came out. Time for a new leader to run the MMO pack, and if WoW fans are too stubborn to realize that and accept it for what it is, then that's their loss That's not to say WoW is no more. As long as Blizzard decide to upkeep the servers, it'll still be playable and fun. There's no need to forget about a game completely just because another one has been released. You just keep playing your WoW, and the people ready to move with what's hot and new will play some Warhammer. Then we're all happy
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ChillinVillain wrote:I would say, they're equally as good, and I enjoy playing both of them. Why must everything be in comparison to something else? They're both damn-fucking-good games. Now stfu and go kill some baddies
Heres a simple answer.
Because everyone hates everyone elses opinion
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That doesn't mean you have to defend your opinion. It's your opinion. Putting someone else's opinion aside and not being open minded to what they're saying just to defend your own is not healthy, really. Not to mention your opinion is entirely based off of others'.
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:No PvE is player vs enemy
Any retard could figure that out without using any sence of logic.
Wrong again, friend. PvE is Player vs. Environment. There is no such thing as PvM in MMO terms. Don't try to rewrite the terminology just to save face and make yourself look smart; it's having the opposite effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment
http://www.wowwiki.com/Player_vs_Environment
http://internetgames.about.com/od/glossary/g/pve.htm
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Player_versus_environment
I could go on, but then you'd probably just use some more shitty logic to say I'm "retarded" when you're 100% incorrect in your own form.
Zeon-Darksol wrote:ALSO MMO WOW BEATS IT
IM A BIG DEDICATED WOW AND CITY OF HERO FAN TO
This is the entire point of this argument, which leads me to my previous post: don't even mention non-MMO games (Starcraft) when trying to say one is better than the other. Because you did, and now you're completely ignoring that. You need a lesson in debating tactics.
Zeon-Darksol wrote:Lets see... No by it being a WoW clone is horrible because its a rip off of a game thats been out for what 5-6 years earlier than this. MMO IS warhammer. Are you stupid? Im not kidding. WoW and warhammer is a Mmo.
Let's have a history lesson, shall we?
- The Warcraft universe is a fictional universe in which a series of games and books published by Blizzard Entertainment are set. Players were first introduced to this universe in 1994 with the original Warcraft: Orcs & Humans in Eastern Kingdoms of the planet Azeroth.
- Since first appearing in 1983, Warhammer has been periodically updated and re-released with changes to the gaming system and army lists. The current official version is the seventh edition, released on 9 September 2006.
Recap: Warhammer started in 1983, Warcraft started in 1994. These are the original conceptions of the lore behind both games. Do you want to know a secret? The Warcraft RTS ripped everything off of Warhammer's lore.
Fast forward to WoW's release, and you've got that same lore just being translated into the MMO format. Who's the ripoff now? Mythic had made Dark Age of Camelot, another successful MMO in its time, long before WoW was even conceived. Veterans of that game can see that Warhammer Online builds off of that basic format. It does not rip off WoW (we've established it's the other way around, yes?) But of course by your own clouded judgment, because World of Warcraft (the MMO) came out first, EVERY MMO that comes out after it is somehow going to rip it off.
Zeon-Darksol wrote:Final Fantasy 11 is a MMO
If you enjoy 14 hour boss fights.
Zeon-Darksol wrote:City of Heroes/Villians MMO
If you enjoy character creation and customization - that's about it.
If you enjoy monotony and rehashed content with every expansion.Zeon-Darksol wrote:WoW is a MMo
All 4 guild wars = MMOZeon-Darksol wrote:Here are more MMO's which are better and looked better
Hellgate London = MMO[/quote]
Free-to-play MMO: Lol get off my internet
Hellgate London: Shutdown as of January 31.
Next time if you're going to refute my arguments, use some evidence. And at least make yourself look like you know what you're talking about.
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ChillinVillain wrote:That doesn't mean you have to defend your opinion. It's your opinion. Putting someone else's opinion aside and not being open minded to what they're saying just to defend your own is not healthy, really. Not to mention your opinion is entirely based off of others'.
I respect someone's opinion on a game if they can effectively say why that game is better than others. But when he's just sitting there saying "WAR IS A RIPOFF IT SUCKS WOW IS BETTER YOU'RE RETARDED," well, I'm not going to play nicely.
Especially when he's not even played Warhammer Online and his opinion only comes from those of other woW fanboys, who, of course are not going to say many nice things about the game because they want it to fail and they want their precious top dog to stay on top.
Lesson in economics for those people: monopoly is not a fun little board game made by Parker Brothers. It's death to that business.
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:No PvE is player vs enemy
Any retard could figure that out without using any sence of logic.
Wrong again, friend. PvE is Player vs. Environment. There is no such thing as PvM in MMO terms. Don't try to rewrite the terminology just to save face and make yourself look smart; it's having the opposite effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment
http://www.wowwiki.com/Player_vs_Environment
http://internetgames.about.com/od/glossary/g/pve.htm
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Player_versus_environment
I could go on, but then you'd probably just use some more shitty logic to say I'm "retarded" when you're 100% incorrect in your own form.Zeon-Darksol wrote:ALSO MMO WOW BEATS IT
IM A BIG DEDICATED WOW AND CITY OF HERO FAN TO
This is the entire point of this argument, which leads me to my previous post: don't even mention non-MMO games (Starcraft) when trying to say one is better than the other. Because you did, and now you're completely ignoring that. You need a lesson in debating tactics.Zeon-Darksol wrote:Lets see... No by it being a WoW clone is horrible because its a rip off of a game thats been out for what 5-6 years earlier than this. MMO IS warhammer. Are you stupid? Im not kidding. WoW and warhammer is a Mmo.
Let's have a history lesson, shall we?
- The Warcraft universe is a fictional universe in which a series of games and books published by Blizzard Entertainment are set. Players were first introduced to this universe in 1994 with the original Warcraft: Orcs & Humans in Eastern Kingdoms of the planet Azeroth.
- Since first appearing in 1983, Warhammer has been periodically updated and re-released with changes to the gaming system and army lists. The current official version is the seventh edition, released on 9 September 2006.
Recap: Warhammer started in 1983, Warcraft started in 1994. These are the original conceptions of the lore behind both games. Do you want to know a secret? The Warcraft RTS ripped everything off of Warhammer's lore.
Fast forward to WoW's release, and you've got that same lore just being translated into the MMO format. Who's the ripoff now? Mythic had made Dark Age of Camelot, another successful MMO in its time, long before WoW was even conceived. Veterans of that game can see that Warhammer Online builds off of that basic format. It does not rip off WoW (we've established it's the other way around, yes?) But of course by your own clouded judgment, because World of Warcraft (the MMO) came out first, EVERY MMO that comes out after it is somehow going to rip it off.Zeon-Darksol wrote:Final Fantasy 11 is a MMO
If you enjoy 14 hour boss fights.Zeon-Darksol wrote:City of Heroes/Villians MMO
If you enjoy character creation and customization - that's about it.If you enjoy monotony and rehashed content with every expansion.Zeon-Darksol wrote:WoW is a MMoAll 4 guild wars = MMOZeon-Darksol wrote:Here are more MMO's which are better and looked better
Hellgate London = MMO
Free-to-play MMO: Lol get off my internet
Hellgate London: Shutdown as of January 31.
Next time if you're going to refute my arguments, use some evidence. And at least make yourself look like you know what you're talking about.[/quote]
Are you retarted?
Hellgate london never shut down retard.
And WoW was made before warhammer
im not saying the RTS
Are you stupid?
Hellgate London i have a account in it and play it all the time still.
the 14 hour boss fights are fun in final fantasy 11
City Of Heroes is awesome and not just because of costume creation
its so original.... its the first actual superhero MMO made so you fail big time. Im a big superhero fan so ofcourse im gonna love this game. I even made wolverine in it and superman
As for your mmo thing about me being a big fan. Im a big WoW and city of hero player who doesnt want to even start another mmo thats just gonna be crap. That game looks like crap. If you google the word Crap the first link that comes up is Warhammer online.
WoW and city of hero's is and looks so much better
Hellgate london is basically Diablo 2 mmo version which is why i love it.
And i compare games of different types all the time. Starcraft broodwar, Diablo 2 lod, and Shining Force 2 is better than ahny of MMO by far.
lets continue adding to the pile of better games than Warhammer
Sherwood RPG dungeons
Both WoW expantion packs.
Lord of the rings online
Age of conan
WELL
MapleStory looks better than that
And maplestory looks like one of the worst games EVER made. Just like the Spirit is the worst movie ever made... i quit watching it during the first 10 minutes. My ears and eyes bled from this movie hurting me so much. Why did frank miller have to make something so terrible.
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as for this
You were the one coming in here complaining. Im not a top dog at WoW.BTW lets add Everquest to the list of games that are better.
That game warhammer just looks horrible. Even the trailor for the game looks horrible. Im not going to a store and buy a 20$ game that is probably going to be horrible considering every preview every trailor every gameplay video i saw of it looks terrible.
I respect someone's opinion on a game if they can effectively say why that game is better than others. But when he's just sitting there saying "WAR IS A RIPOFF IT SUCKS WOW IS BETTER YOU'RE RETARDED," well, I'm not going to play nicely.
Especially when he's not even played Warhammer Online and his opinion only comes from those of other woW fanboys, who, of course are not going to say many nice things about the game because they want it to fail and they want their precious top dog to stay on top.
Lesson in economics for those people: monopoly is not a fun little board game made by Parker Brothers. It's death to that business.
You were the one coming in here complaining. Im not a top dog at WoW.BTW lets add Everquest to the list of games that are better.
That game warhammer just looks horrible. Even the trailor for the game looks horrible. Im not going to a store and buy a 20$ game that is probably going to be horrible considering every preview every trailor every gameplay video i saw of it looks terrible.
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:MapleStory looks better than that
This argument just became a joke when you said that. Not going to dignify any more of your asinine, illogical, biased, ill informed, and clouded remarks with refutes.
By the way if you need a dictionary to look up any of those words, google is your friend. 'Cause Lord knows you must not have many with the way you think.
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:MapleStory looks better than that
This argument just became a joke when you said that. Not going to dignify any more of your asinine, illogical, biased, ill informed, and clouded remarks with refutes.
By the way if you need a dictionary to look up any of those words, google is your friend. 'Cause Lord knows you must not have many with the way you think.
You do realize everyone isnt a author right?
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:You do realize everyone isnt a author right?
lolwut
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Not to add fuel to the fire, but I'm twelve and i understood all of those words.
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Wait.....What
smoke a j and you'll be ok. Seriously, though, do it!
smoke a j and you'll be ok. Seriously, though, do it!
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I understand them to. But i dont spend all my time doing research on crappy games, or games at all.Kiryuu wrote:Not to add fuel to the fire, but I'm twelve and i understood all of those words.
Posting all that up proved you have no life Elge.
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Zeon-Darksol wrote:I understand them to. But i dont spend all my time doing research on crappy games, or games at all.
Posting all that up proved you have no life Elge.
lolwut
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Elge wrote:Zeon-Darksol wrote:I understand them to. But i dont spend all my time doing research on crappy games, or games at all.
Posting all that up proved you have no life Elge.
lolwut
Your the one researching video games.