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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:37 am

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:Your bringing me up with a side that is giving me a headache and making me angry because as we both know, we both hate everyone else's opinion. I showed the other because you showed the first. ALSO critics are fail. More or less they like the greatest movies ever made. Listen to reviews from actual people on IMDB.com for review people themselves wrote on the devils rejects. It has 7/10, 70%. Thats review from actual people combined, not reviews from critics that hate gore and need loads and loads of storyline and backstory.

    Also that placeholder doesnt cause win if you read this post. Here are reviews below.

    In case you missed it, I did use IMDb.com average scores for the movies I listed. ALL but one of them are equal to or higher than The Devil's Rejects (Blair Witch is slightly less, and 1408 is equal - everything else is rated higher). You said it yourself, these are reviews by FANS - fans who obviously found the other movies better, thereby proving you wrong in saying "The devils rejects beat all of the following movies on your list."

    You want good gore-porn movies? You think I hate them all? Here's what happens you assume - you make an ass...out of yourself, that's about it:

    Oldboy
    IMDb.com: 8.3/10

    Ichi the Killer
    IMDb.com: 7.2/10

    The Descent
    IMDb.com: 7.4/10

    If you start to notice the trend, none of them are American-made films. These are some of the most brilliant gore-porn movies I have seen. They have substance, they have believable characters, they have a driving story - they have a purpose other than to simply flaunt and dangle useless garbage in front of the audience.

    Your arguments are full of so many holes, it's making me hungry for some swiss cheese right now.


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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:44 am

    Here is amazon.com reviews for the movie. The first ones that appear on a list. Check it out for yourself. Some were cut due to post length BTW
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    3/5
    Devil's Rejects is amongst my favorite films, for it's great mix of humor, action/violence/gore, and character development. Most people looking at this review already know all about this movie.

    The Picture on this movie doesn't seem to be all that much of an improvement. I've seen VAST differences on Blu-Rays vs DVD (Unforgiven especially!!!), and this movie just doesn't seem to have all that much extra when watching it in Hi-Def.

    There are no new special features in this release, so if you already own this title on DVD, I would advise against upgrading like I did.
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    4/5
    It's the 1970s all over again. If you're obsessed with the 1970s, like me, especially 70s drive-in classics, like me, The Devil's Rejects is a must-see. It's probably the closest thing to a 70s drive-in horror flick that's been made since the 70s. This is either a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. If you hate tasteless, gory, low-budget B-movies, then you would do well to skip The Devil's Rejects. If, however, you are passionate about Ford Administration-era low-budget flicks, then don't hesitate: see this movie.

    The Devil's Rejects is Rob Zombie's spin-off/sequel to his 2003 directorial debut, House of 1000 Corpses. That film was famously dumped by its distributor, Universal Studios, and then picked up by Lion's Gate. Then upon release it was scathed by critics, but not surprisingly, managed to connect with a cult audience. Personally I found it to be the most sensational, joyous horror film I had seen in ages. It reveled in its depravity and had the ability to be both hilarious and disturbing at the same time. The Devil's Rejects is up the same alley. Not as much of a horror movie as its predecessor, The Devil's Rejects is more of an action-horror-road movie. It looks like a 30-year-old drive-in movie. If you didn't know any better, you could swear that it was filmed on a shoestring budget in the late '70s. It captures that feel extraordinarily well. The movie gets it down from the start and never strays from it, right down to the soundtrack. The first song that you hear in the movie is The Allman Brothers Band classic "Midnight Rider". The soundtrack also features Joe Walsh, Terry Reid, James Gang, Elvin Bishop, Otis Rush, etc. Not to mention a very memorable use of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird".

    If House of 1000 Corpses was Rob Zombie's homage to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Devil's Rejects seems almost like an homage to Tobe Hooper's 1986 sequel, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. The similarities are certainly there. William Forsythe's Sheriff Wydell is not far from Dennis Hopper's Lieutenant Lefty Enright, who maniacally pursues the family of killers to exact his revenge. The whole film reeks of Tobe Hooper worship (but not in a bad way).

    The Tobe Hooper element is certainly there, but another director sprang to mind as I was watching the film. The Devil's Rejects is almost like the horror equivalent of Kill Bill, Quentin Tarantino's retro-martial arts-spaghetti western masterpiece. Upon seeing the film a second time, I was reminded of the work of yet another director: Sam Peckinpah. I don't know if Rob Zombie was directly influenced by Peckinpah (it's certainly likely), but all thoughout The Devil's Rejects I was reminded of films like The Wild Bunch, Straw Dogs and The Getaway. The first time I saw it, all I really thought of was Tobe Hooper, however I now see that The Devil's Rejects may be a bit of a Peckinpah homage as well. This certainly gives the film an element of style and class to contrast the otherwise trashy material.

    Rob Zombie, just like Quentin Tarantino, is passionate about this genre of film and tries to make the ultimate drive-in homage. Just look at the roster of horror film veterans that Zombie assembled: Ken Foree, P.J. Soles, Mary Waronov, Michael Berryman, and Steve Railsback. If you know who any of these people are, then you are definitely part of the target audience for this film. Not to mention Sid Haig and Bill Moseley returning from House of 1000 Corpses.

    Ahh, yes... Sid Haig and Bill Moseley. This movie absolutely belongs to them!! Haig and Moseley own the screen! These two actors alone make the film a must-see. They are awesome! If you liked Sid Haig's Captain Spaulding character from the first film, you will be delighted to know that he plays a much bigger part in this one. Sid Haig is a devilish delight as the mad clown, Captain Spaulding. Bill Moseley simply rules as Otis! He is a bad M.F. These two awesome performances carry the movie. Also worth mentioning is William Forsythe who is excellent as Sheriff Wydell, the obsessed lawman who is trying to track down Captain Spaulding and his cohorts. Next to Sid Haig and Bill Moseley, Forsythe gives one of the best performances in the movie. However, I really miss Karen Black as Mother Firefly. Not to say that Leslie Easterbrook isn't good in the role, but I think she goes a bit over the top. Karen Black would have brought a graceful sensuality to the character, and probably a bit of restraint.

    So, is The Devil's Rejects a good movie? Well, that's not an easy question. The short answer is probably "no, it's not". By the conventional definition, it would probably not be labeled a cinematic triumph. However, Rob Zombie does a fine job directing and his dialog is deliciously profane. For those who like this sort of thing, the movie is a blast. Finally, allow me to state a blunt warning: If you are looking for a good, scary horror movie, The Devil's Rejects is probably not what you're looking for. If you like horror movies like The Ring and The Grudge, The Devil's Rejects is DEFINITELY not what you're looking for. Simply put, if you like modern horror movies a lot, you will probably not like The Devil's Rejects. On the other hand if you recognize Ken Foree from his roles in George Romero's Dawn of the Dead and Stuart Gordon's From Beyond, and you know Michael Berryman as the "freaky-looking guy" from The Hills Have Eyes, then yes, The Devil's Rejects is certainly for you. If you treasure your copy of VideoHound's "Cult Flicks and Trash Pics", then yes, this is for you. If you're not too squeamish, you'll probably have a bloody good time.
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    1/5
    Remember those R Kern and Nick Zedd films that Film Threat was raving about in the 80s? anyone? no? okay...

    this film is a continuation of a questionable punk rock performance art film style that was big in the 80s. A corny parody of gender roles, rural stereostypes of masculinity, shocking exploitation films and etc.

    the trouble with ironic incompetence mixed with parody is that sometimes its worse than the original. maybe im giving zombie too much cred. maybe he had a superficial take on the genre and he truly enjoys this stuff for its own sake. doesnt matter to me. this stuff is drek.
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    4/5
    Part II in the twisted saga that was "House of 1,000 Corpses" continues, and I wish that this would never end. Rob Zombie, God love him had the sense to carry these characters to the next level. The "family" takes a road trip after a vigilante sheriff comes-a-gunnin' for 'em. This time, they're lookin' for a hiding place and of course, people are gonna die along the way. This isn't so much a review of the movie (as there's plenty of that here on amazon) as it is a "two-cent" approval from someone who loves old 70's schlock. Zombie nails it as he re-creates the fun of movie horrors in days gone by.
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    3/5
    http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Rejects-Unrated-Widescreen/review/product/B000AXWHSA/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
    Have fun reading them all and seing that there azactly the same as what i posted. This beats your movie critic revews which chances are you just picked out at random, chances are you saw the first review for devils rejects was bad and picked that while the second third fith sixth seventh and ninth out of twenty were really good. See what i mean by "Overly opinionated"
    You give the bad reviews to make the movie look bad, while i just give the first 10 reviews that appear on the site, even if a few are horrible. Look at all those 4/5 up there. People love this movie. Your just a movie critic who thinks people get thrills from plot(i do for certain movies) more than they do with gore. Well here is reality. people like gore in horror movies more than they do plot. Theres the truth of it. Thats what people like anymore, and it isnt changing anytime soon. Look at the trailor for tokyo gore police or the machine girl. It proves my point. Everyone says those movie's are amazing, and the title of the movie category they are in is "Gore" Thats literally the title of the movie category. Im not kidding either.

    There you go, the devils rejects amazing reviews done by people and not movie critics.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:47 am

    Alright, let's use Amazon now.

    Average scores for the following gore-porn:

    The Devil's Rejects: 3.5 out of 5 stars.
    Oldboy: 4.5 out of 5 stars.
    Ichi the Killer: 4 out of 5 stars.
    The Descent: 4 out of 5 stars.

    I could do this all night. Keep supplying me with silly remarks and I'll keep refuting them.


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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:57 am

    I remember The Decent. That movie was actually really good.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:58 am

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:I remember The Decent. That movie was actually really good.

    Finally, someone else with common sense posts.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:00 am

    It was pretty good. And didn't have any expected lesbian scenes. Lol.
    It was an amazing movie actually.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:02 am

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:It was pretty good. And didn't have any expected lesbian scenes. Lol.
    It was an amazing movie actually.

    THAT is the type of gore movie that I like. Stuff with purpose. Stuff like Saw, where there is an actual competent and interesting story driving the violent acts. When you throw a bunch of idiotic lovebirds traveling because of some inane research project and they end up in the middle of no where at some creepy dilapidated house, you know you're in a Rob Zombie movie.

    And you know you're in for 2 hours of terrible. There is no sense of connection with these stupid kids. It's their own damn fault for getting themselves killed. Predictable retards are predictable.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:07 am

    Mhm. But I also did like the Rob Zombie movies. They were pretty cool. But I don't like many horro movies. None really enough to watch it a second time.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:10 am

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Mhm. But I also did like the Rob Zombie movies. They were pretty cool. But I don't like many horro movies. None really enough to watch it a second time.

    I will give credit where it's due: The Devil's Rejects was a far superior film than House of 1000 Corpses. And Zombie's Halloween was just a mess. But as those first two movies stand up against their own genre, they're nothing special.

    Of course, we've witnessed how crazy a rabid fan gets in defense of his beloved masterpiece.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:14 am

    This is true. Then again, I didn't want to go to the Slipknot concert with Coheed playing because the Slipknot fans were booing Coheed. That's not right... So I would have had to fuck some people up.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:18 am

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:the Slipknot fans were booing Coheed.

    That disgusts me. The irony and ignorance in that event alone is mind-boggling.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:21 am

    Yeah. Pretty gay.
    I've heard that people actually go to Coheed shows just to boo them...
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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:11 pm

    XXXBurningStarIV wrote:Mhm. But I also did like the Rob Zombie movies. They were pretty cool. But I don't like many horro movies. None really enough to watch it a second time.
    See as i said.
    And eldge
    Most people dont care abotu storyline in horror movies, you do realize this right. Your just a critic. Most people see horror movies because gore makes them. Look at saw. Its a gore movie with no story and its on #5 and #6 is being made right now.

    People like gore.
    Im a person
    Unlike you
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:26 pm

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:Most people dont care abotu storyline in horror movies, you do realize this right. Your just a critic. Most people see horror movies because gore makes them. Look at saw. Its a gore movie with no story and its on #5 and #6 is being made right now.

    People like gore.
    Im a person
    Unlike you

    Saw doesn't have a story? Maybe you need to go back and rewatch them. The first one has about as much story as any traditional drama or suspense thriller. People watch movies to be entertained. I get that. You'll notice I didn't start arguing with Crystal because she likes the movies. Here's what she did correctly,"But I also did like the Rob Zombie movies."

    She expressed her opinion AS opinion. Here's what you said:


    ALSO ELGE
    YOUR FAIL
    Those movies are amazing and so is his music. People stopped liking his music because the techno stuff is out of it basically. Its more like White Zombie which i love. But alot heavier. Listen to his song for Punisher Warzone, really heavy. You people dont like it because its something different. You could at least give it a chance. Or your complete failure elge.


    The devils rejects beat all of the following movies on your list.

    You state things as fact, even if they may only be your opinion. Your opinion is YOURS and no one can change your mind. But before you start spewing nonsense and illogical fallacies, learn to express your opinion properly. Otherwise you will be proven wrong time and again.

    I'd also like to point out your contradicition. You just said Saw doesn't have a story, yet on page 2 you said this:


    And i love the first saw. It has a story.

    Man, where's that swiss cheese?
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:31 pm

    Wtf?Don't make me lock this thread too.
    Pissed
    Stop flaming.
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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:42 pm

    Elge wrote:
    Zeon-Darksol wrote:Most people dont care abotu storyline in horror movies, you do realize this right. Your just a critic. Most people see horror movies because gore makes them. Look at saw. Its a gore movie with no story and its on #5 and #6 is being made right now.

    People like gore.
    Im a person
    Unlike you

    Saw doesn't have a story? Maybe you need to go back and rewatch them. The first one has about as much story as any traditional drama or suspense thriller. People watch movies to be entertained. I get that. You'll notice I didn't start arguing with Crystal because she likes the movies. Here's what she did correctly,"But I also did like the Rob Zombie movies."

    She expressed her opinion AS opinion. Here's what you said:


    ALSO ELGE
    YOUR FAIL
    Those movies are amazing and so is his music. People stopped liking his music because the techno stuff is out of it basically. Its more like White Zombie which i love. But alot heavier. Listen to his song for Punisher Warzone, really heavy. You people dont like it because its something different. You could at least give it a chance. Or your complete failure elge.


    The devils rejects beat all of the following movies on your list.

    You state things as fact, even if they may only be your opinion. Your opinion is YOURS and no one can change your mind. But before you start spewing nonsense and illogical fallacies, learn to express your opinion properly. Otherwise you will be proven wrong time and again.

    I'd also like to point out your contradicition. You just said Saw doesn't have a story, yet on page 2 you said this:


    And i love the first saw. It has a story.

    Man, where's that swiss cheese?
    In the first Blair which project movie.
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:31 pm

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:In the first Blair which project movie.

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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:30 pm

    Elge wrote:
    Zeon-Darksol wrote:In the first Blair which project movie.

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    Your the woman.

    Your also the bird...
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:34 pm

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:
    Your the woman.

    Your also the bird...

    Cool story, bro.
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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:40 pm

    Elge wrote:
    Zeon-Darksol wrote:
    Your the woman.

    Your also the bird...

    Cool story, bro.
    I know, im such a amazing author aunt I? I wish one day i could be just like you and have a book that i dont really like published Very Happy
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    Post by Elge Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:42 pm

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:I know, im such a amazing author aunt I? I wish one day i could be just like you and have a book that i dont really like published Very Happy

    If you wish upon a star it just might happen.
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    Post by Dead_Inside Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:53 pm

    Elge wrote:
    Zeon-Darksol wrote:I know, im such a amazing author aunt I? I wish one day i could be just like you and have a book that i dont really like published Very Happy

    If you wish upon a star it just might happen.
    I know it will. Your wish to be a pop star came true didnt it?
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    Post by Elge Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:15 am

    Zeon-Darksol wrote:I know it will. Your wish to be a pop star came true didnt it?

    They call me Captain Hammer.

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    The hammer is my penis.
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    Post by Upahs_Keywork Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:39 am

    Lmfao. You guys are silly.
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    Post by Dead_Inside Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:05 am

    Elge wrote:
    Zeon-Darksol wrote:I know it will. Your wish to be a pop star came true didnt it?

    They call me Captain Hammer.

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    The hammer is my penis.
    :O

    Your wish is awesome. I bet the woman like the superhero look to Very Happy

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